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new revelations. more than 100 innocent children now we find out parents reported this doctor years ago for excessive kissing, inappropriate touching, other doctors and nurses were suspicious, his own sister went to a medical society with fears five years ago but nothing was done. why? a little girl abandoned at a gas station bathroom found crying in a men's room stall, someone left her behind but who? who could leave a tiny girl with those big innocent eyes?
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finally today, a new clue we may find out what happened to her. you're an important part of the show. give us a call. give us a call 1-877-tell-hln. you can e-mail us at cnn.com/primenews or text us at hln, tv. start your message with the word "prime" this is your chance to be heard. welcome once again i'm vinnie politan in for mike galanos. this is "prime news." breaking news from sea world in orlando, florida. a killer whale just attacked a trainer, killing her in front of a horrified crowd and attack so violent she was pronounced dead at the scene. new details trickling in and minute ago sea world held a news conference and we'll get to that. first, just listen to a witness describe the horror. >> we walked out. there was a lot of people there, a trainer standing by the window talking about the whale and people were asking questions, how much does he weigh, things
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like that then the whale like floated upside down and the trainer said, oh, yeah, you know, they are giving him a belly rub. he really likes that and i could tell it was [ inaudible ] baku tell by the huge fin. the trainer downstairs called out to the trainer upstairs okay so-and-so, we're ready and he took off like a bat out of you know where and took off really fast, came up to the glass, jumped up and grabbed the trainer by the waist and started shaking her violentlily and the last thing i saw was her shoe and sirens started and the other people that stand around the glass area started telling us that we needed to get out. sirens were going off. i've never seen so many sea world employees come out of the woodwork. people in suits and in dress clothes and they were yelling at us we needed to get out.
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>> joining me -- and, drew, let me go to you first. there is a news conference here, is sea world saying the same thing this witness is saying happened? >> no, not at all. you know, i hadn't even heard that witness you just played. that's very interesting. what sea world said the trainer slipped and fell in and that this was one big accident. not really seeing too many details. really what you heard that account from that eyewitness is pretty much the most detailed account we've heard so far. what they said at the press conference definitely not what that witness just said. >> bill, from what we heard from that witness does, this make any sense, you've got this, what is it a 12,300-pound bull orca bursting out of the water, grabbing this trainer by the waist and thrashing her around, does that sound like that's what could have happened here? >> certainly it's a tragedy and any human loss when playing with
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big animals is a tragedy. can a killer whale of that size play with a trainer or a buoy or anything and throw it around, sure. we see them do it in the wild all the time. >> are they smart enough, do they know what they are doing? is this an attack, is is this a predatory thing or is this a whale who wants to play with someone who trains and sees each and every day? >> it is really hard to say. i can't tell you what an animal is thinking and not having been there it is hard to listen to other eyewitness accounts and put a clear picture together but i can say these trainers spend an awful lot of time with these animals and can have enduring relationships and there can be times a big whale thinks this is a play time and plays too roughly. >> what do we know about the people there? this wasn't during a performance, was it? >> no. apparently, this was after one of the performances they have actually private sitdown, you can have lunch and they bring the whales up and the trainers
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kinds of talk about them, something you pay extra to do after the show is over, more like a private meet with the trainers and you get some personal time with the whales so it's a little bit different than the actual show. one other thing i think important to note, did some research about this particular whale, it's the biggest whale in captivity, the biggest orca in apttivity and very interesting this same whale has actually been involved with the death two of other trainers, one in 1992, where a trainer was attacked and viciously killed and another incident where somebody actually slipped into the tank at night and they found the person dead in the morning. so, this isn't the first incident with this particular whale. >> and how about that, bill, you've got a 12,000-pound whale who's in this tank. should trainers even be in that tank? >> well, you know, sea world is very, very careful with their animal training and very, very good at it. with that said, they spend an enormous amount of time working
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on relationships with the whales. he might have misunderstood what the trainer was doing. had he done it on purpose -- >> bill, if this is a whale that has a history like this one seems to have, what would you do, then? where could you place a 12,000-pound whale, would you set it free into the wild? >> well, setting animals out into the wild after having been in human care is a whole other subject altogether but i would certainly say the type of policies and training programs they have for this whale will certainly be looked at carefully and made certain there they are as cautious and safe as they can be for all parties. >> drew, final word as we look at this story and sea world saying one thing, what rr authorities sayi authorities saying down there? is there going to be an investigation? >> -- not information flowing. like i said that eyewitness account is pretty much the best
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information you are going to get if that's exactly what happened. that's a better explanation than we've gotten from -- the people actually involved from an authoritative standpoint. >> thanks so much to both of you. >> all right. a pediatrician whose parents trust with their kids accused of molesting more than 100 victims. 13 years old to just three months. the doctor now facing first degree rape, sexual exploitation of a child. now we are learning there were many red flags. i can't believe this guy wasn't caught years ago. we are taking your calls, 1-877-tell-hln.
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hue could a pediatrician be accused of raping little kids if a -- for a decade without anyone being suspicious. now we find many red flags and this is so infuriating. in 1989 he was accused of sexual misconduct. no charges were filed n. 2004, delaware, a mom complained about improper touching. her 3-year-old said dr. bradley kissed her too much, why is he kissing her to begin with? no charges filed. in 2005, dr. bradley's own sister, his office manager at the time, reported him to the state medical society. and guess what, no charges filed. then in 2008, more allegations, police tried to get a search warrant. that warrant was denied. then finally, late 2009, december, this doctor was arrested. if you look at the time line, cops say 48 victims were abused in just the last year.
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could these children have been saved? what took so long? joining me psychotherapist dawn horowitz, a person she works with sex abuse victims and offenders and ryan mavity, reporter for the "cape gazette" in delaware. ryan, all these missed opportunities, i mean, how did that happen? is there an explanation as to how people can report a doctor kissing someone too much, how his own sister can make a report and nothing gets done here? >> well, that's the million dollar question in this case is why. and certainly, the powers that be here in delaware from the governor to attorney general biden have come out and formed task forces to find out that question why. as far as some of the allegations go, police have told us before that one of the reasons they were not able to
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press charges against bradley is because not all -- there was no way they could get his exams not out of the realm of medical possibility. in late 2009, he -- they got strong evidence that he took a child outside of the examining room and that was in their eyes what they got authority for a search warrant for and then basically hit the mother lode the videos showing him committing sexual offenses against children. >> dawn, you've worked with offenders. how does a guy like this get that opportunity? how is he able to -- and he's a doctor, when people go to the doctor or bring their kids there, they are going to be with their children, i think, most of the time if not all of the time. how does he get away with this? >> well, i think because he has that position of trust and people still hang on to those old stereotypes, the myths about people that molest are the
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creepy looking guy in the long black trench coat that snaps children off the streets and i think it is son important and vital to children's lives and safety to get the message out that people molest because they are in a position of trust. they have gained your child's trust because of the position in which they're in. and so, here, you know, apparently this doctor was able to gain trust because he was their physician and people believed in him and gave him a blanket trust, it sounds like. >> to the phone lines to see what you think. let's go to ohio and melody. you are on the air. >> caller: yes. my concern would be for the children. after them being -- i'm sure some of them were terribly terrorized by this doctor and traumatized, what is the treatment that a child has to go through or the therapy for this type of an incident? thanks. >> how about that, dawn wampl?
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>> what is the treatment the child needs to go through? it's very likely the child is going to need treatment. i would absolutely suggest that they get into treatment with somebody who's qualified, that works with children that, works with children that have been molested and assess where that particular child is at. you know, all children are different but they're going to need some help and support and i think the most important thing is to find a therapist the child can connect with and has experience in training in the field to help your child make sense of it and make sure the blame is taken off the child and help educate the child and parent. >> ryan, how about the victims in this case. what are we hearing from these victims' families, are they coming out, is it outrage or a case of oh, my goodness, i can't believe that this happened, this is the doctor i trusted? >> well, it's both of those things. i think, you know, lower sussex county, delaware one of those places in the world things generally come to, not from. something like this is just --
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just shocked people beyond everything. and, you know, the major thing that you hear from people that -- whose children were patients with dr. bradley is that they trusted him. everyone you hear is that we trusted this guy. and it's just one -- people are just, you know, it's the water cooler conversation in this part of the world, for sure. >> and that's the thing. i mean, you trust your dr. if you didn't, you wouldn't bring the most important thing in the world when something is wrong. you bring your child to a doctor and people screen doctors and go to someone that they trust and this man, this man, if these allegations are true, violated that trust to such a degree and now we're hearing these numbers, outrageous, the man who parents trusted to care for their kids. instead, pediatrician earl bradley sexually assaulted over 100 little patients. we'll dig deeper into the red flags missed. also, don't forget, we are taking your calls,
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1-877-tell-hln.
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back talking about the pediatrician accused of raping 103 kids. taking your phone calls at 1-877-tell-hln. and attorney wendy murphy now joins our conversation. wendy, here's what i don't understand. this goes on there, are other doctors who have suspicions,
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don't they have some sort of obligation to make a report here and, when reports are given, shouldn't there be a better investigation if his own sister goes to the medical society. >> you think, vinni snedz he iv? the thing that bugs me the most non-professional people were suspicious and trying to do something you think the ones with the m.d. after their name might actually get a clue to. have this guy be so prolific for so long and to have medical professionals actually voice their own suspicions, one actually called him a pedophile among other professionals it is extraordinary the first do no harm thing, you remember that part of the hip contra tick oath, this guy more into how much harm can i do before i die? i don't get this on any level. it is not like this is the first doctor whoever hurt a kid. >> no, we've seen this before but to this extent is completely
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outrageous. dawn horowitz, this man's uncle has a conviction for indecency. should we read anything into that? is there a possibility there's some connection or nexus between this man's behavior and the fact that his uncle has been convicted of indecency. >> i don't know about that. that would just be really speculating. it sounds like, though, you briefly said before the break about red flags that were missed. >> sure. >> wanted to comment on that for a minute. >> give us some more. >> okay. the concern being taking a child alone. why would he ever need to take your child alone, doesn't make sense to me you wouldn't stay with especially a young child at the doctor. to me that, would have been a red flag. and again, this isn't, by any means, about blame. >> don't these guys -- don't these guys have a way of convincing you that, hey, i'm the doctor, you've got your hands full with these other kids? >> absolutely. >> i'll get them a piece of candy or something, such a good little patient. >> that's i think part of what
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was missed is that people give, people in positions blanket trust and they shouldn't. this is our children we're talking about. they should not be trusted just because of the role that they hold. i have treated people who have sexually offended that are every profession you could ever think of, absolutely every one. there is nothing i can't think of i have not treated in terms of professions so i think we need to be really careful about who we give our trust to and don't just assume that person is trustworthy. >> and even better idea for the parents out there who may be teaching their children good touch, bad touch, only okay if the doctor does that, knock that och. >> not to include the doctor anymore. >> i know. not only that. >> we're running out of time but thank you all so for which helping us out. what a heart-breaking story this is. is. another one, a little girl abandoned as a gas station found crying. now people across the country want to adopt her, but who is this also girl?
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i'm deeply sorry for any accident that toyota drivers have experienced. >> demonstrated an uncaring attitude and disregard for life. the results have been tragic. and today, i must say, shame on you toyota for being so greedy. and shame on you nitsa for not doing your job. >> gripping stories from capitol hill. toyota car owners telling their horror stories of their runaway cars speeding out of control and you just saw toyota's
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ceo apologize today plus now finding out this recall fix may not totally solve the gas pedal problem. are people still driving dangerous cars? with us, rhonda and eddie smith who testified before congress. you just saw ron today. they join me now by phone. thank you, both, for joining us. rhonda, walk us through your story. what happened, what kind of car were you driving? >> it was the 2000 lexus es350. >> what happened. >> i'm sorry, it was a 2007. i want to thank you, vinnie, for having me talk to you today. >> thanks for joining us. we appreciate it. you're driving. when is the first time you notice something is wrong with this car? >> well, it was whenever i had just gotten onto the interstate and i had accelerated into the flow of traffic and then the cruise light came on and the car went into passing gear on its own and i thought at that time
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it was something to do with the cruise so i took the cruise off but it continued to sack rel ra -- accelerate. >> let's take a listen. >> i prayed for god to help me. i called my husband on the blutooth phone system. i knew -- i'm sorry -- i knew he could not help me but i wanted to hear his voice one more time. after six miles, god intervened. as the car came very slowly to a stop. >> rhonda, six miles and you're driving along, you can't control the speed. so, you call your husband,
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eddi eddie? >> yes. i had done everything that i knew to do and i knew that my life was going to end so he's y my -- he's my life-long partner and that's what i wanted to hear and then i thought, well, maybe he knew of something else to do that might save my life but there was nothing else to do so i thought that was my last day here on the earth and i just wanted to hear him. >> wow. well, miraculously somehow the car slowed down and came to a stop. today, the president of toyota sales spoke, as well. take a listen. >> listens to mrs. smith, i'm embarrassed for what happened. and we are going to go down and talk to them and get that car so that they feel satisfied. i want her and her husband to feel safe about driving our
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products. i was embarrassed to hear the story. >> ron today, i wanted to get your reaction to what you heard from the president of toyota sales here in the united states saying, hey, they were embarrassed, they want to talk to you and make sure you are satisfied. what do you need to hear from hi him? >> well, i think, for one thing, that he should be embarrassed. it should never have gotten this far. but, yes, an apology would be good and i just want to hear that -- that, uh -- that they would realize that what they've done is wrong and morally wrong and i would like to hear them say that they're going to do better on their safety and that, if they survive this -- such as
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mitsubishi did in 2004, i would like to ensure quality controls so that someone would never have to go through this and that -- >> thank goodness, though, you are survived and able to speak to us tonight about this and tell the world about it. ali, the one thing that jumped out at me they may not be able to totally fix the problem here, not going to be able to fix the problem. >> we have three problems going on. put aside the prius problem and deal with the lexus and camry rhonda drives, about break acceleration. in some cases because the pedal was stuck on the floor mat, in other cases just getting stuck like rhonda was talking about. what is happening there is some evidence this might not be a mechanical problem. toyota is fixing a mechanical problem right now. there are some people who think this could be an electronic problem. rhonda is one of those people,
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thinking there is something in the system that is wrong and toyota says that is not the case. a lot of scientists or engineers think it is. what we haven't got a full explanation of the fact it is all done. toyota has examined it and don't think it an electronic problem and think it can be fixed mechanically. >> we have a question from a viewer, how long did they know about this. do we know the answer. >> we sort of do. the president of toyota said today he found out about in late 2009 but the fact there had been reports and media information out there. what he said to congress today the person in charge of quality control knew about it earlier but as you may recall, vinnie, you and our viewers may know this a memo that went out under the category of toyota wins, wins for toyota, things that have benefited toyota, the idea they were able to limit the recall into something smaller continue could have been. there is some sense they knew about it a long time ago. the issue is did they know it
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was this serious, what we're still trying to get to the bottom of. >> i know eddie was standing right back next to rhonda on the phone. thank you both. coming up, more information about the breaking news we told you about at the top of the show, a killer whale killed a trainer at sea world in orlando. we'll take you to florida for the lates in the investigation and, of course, taking your calls, 1-877-tell-hln.
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like i said she explained he was swimming very fast, this is a sign we need to let him calm down and swim slower and see if he will change his pattern. >> what are your thoughts now that someone was actually killed. >> i think it's terrible and, you know, i mean, obviously, this isn't something that happens very often so it wouldn't -- premeditate it happening but i wish and pray they hadn't gotten into the pool since it was clear the whale was upset and just my prayers go to that person's family. >> breaking news from sea world in orlando, florida, a killer whale just attacked a trainer, killing her in front of a horrified crowd, so violent she was pronounced dead at the scene. joining me nick van zandt from news 13. thanks for joining us. let's begin. we heard initially conflicting
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reports from sea world and witnesses as to what exactly happened. what are you hearing? >> reporter: we are still trying to sort out a lot of details to be frankly honest about it but we have had a very brief statement from sea world essentially came out and instead is a tragic day for them, that a lot of the people at the park are take having hard. the local sheriff's office here didn't really say very much. they only said that this is a death investigation and they are going to go ahead and proceed as they normally do but what we are hearing, what we have heard from both officials and also talked with witnesses, people who work inside of the park this was an experienced animal trainer, about 40 years old. name has not been confirmed or released at this time. but, she was participating in one of the private dinner shows that's out here. you pay a little bit extra money and can come and get a close-up view of the different whales. she was participating in that when suddenly she slipped. fell into that tank and that's when the whale came and attacked her and then pushed her to the bottom of the tank that she was in, that's what we are hearing
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from witnesses who were there and they describe it, you just played some of that how horrible a scene that was. we talked with woman woman who said she had to grab her kids and avoid their eyes. you are talking about a huge whale that really wasn't anything anybody could do at this point. they did sound the alert sirens and tried to get people here and call in as many trainers as they could. officials say they are not closing down the park. the sheriff's office is launching an investigation but we talked to an inside source who says this whale has had problems and killed two people in the past. this is now something a lot of people are paying attention to. sheriff's office will continue to investigate. >> unbelievable. >> there is also a lot of grief coming out at this point, as well. >> the thing we find very shocking this whale has some sort of history and wonder what is the trainer doing that close to this whale, over 12,000 found. we have a caller, keith in canada. keith, you're on the air.
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>> caller: i actually was born and raised in victoria, where we had an exact incident, the same as this happen. and, i mean, these things, they don't call them "killer" whales for nothing. they are, pound for pound, the most dangerous animal in the world. >> absolutely. you are so right, keith. we still have nick van zandt with us from central florida news 13 in orlando. nick, i heard you explain the trainer slipped. we've heard other witness accounts where a witness said that the whale came out of the water and grabbed the trainer by the waist. are you hearing conflicting reports or are you hearing a consistent story coming from the folks you are speaking to down there? >> we're hearing conflicting reports because when we initially got here, we heard a wide variety of stories. we talked to some people that said during the main shamu show that happens earlier in the day when thousands of people can come in, the whales had been acting a little bit differently
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and this particular one has been used to stud out in the past and said the whales were acting strange and we go to this private show where we hear very con o conflicting reports. we heard, yes, that version from the sheriff's office she was doing something on the edge of the tank. that's not unusual. they do get very close if you have seen one of these shows but they were saying, yeah, she was close to the edge of the tank and maybe fell in but also heard the whale came up, grabbed her and then pulled her back into the water. we are hearing those conflicting reports like you just mentioned at this time. >> nick, we appreciate your reporting. say i had to all my old friends down there at cfn. octomom, nadya suleman told the ladies of abc's "the view" she could have more children. did you hear that, she wants more kids. that is if she gets married one day but she says that's far, far off in the future and, if she does get married, she would only have one child. does she really need any more kids? we're taking your calls on this
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one, 1-877-tell-hln.
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is octomom really
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considering another baby? is she in denial. nadya suleman can barely take care of her 14 children yet here she is on abc's "the view" talking about having one more baby. >> is this it for kids for you, you are done having kids? >> yes. oh, yes, yes, yes, oh, absolutely. some day, far, far, farp in the future when they're older if, god willing i meet somebody, i meet somebody -- not alone but i'm not going to say 100% i'm not going to someday far in the future get married and want a baby. >> god wilg or god forbid? i can't wait to hear your calls on this one, foe shgone, 1-877-. all right. kim, let's get first of all to the appearance on "the view." she's got these boots on, she's
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got these tight leggings. what's going on there. >> i don't even know where to start. i watch the women's figure skating in the olympics but didn't show up to this appearance dressed like an ice dancer. >> there she is. so happy to be there. >> oh. >> she was thrilled. i have to say, i mean, we were laughing all at it and "the view" ladies you don't normally see them trying to get a word in edgewise over their guests normally fighting over each other but they could not even speak, she has so much energy, manic energy. that's how she lost the weight. she must have burned 2000 calories by talking this morning. >> number one she looks great, right, and number two we haven't heard any disaster stories about the kids. i know if something bad happened with those kids we'd heard babot it. how is she keeping this altogether, michelschellmichell?
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>> supposedly she has three nannies during the day. given her personality and how difficult it is even just to speak with her -- >> speak of speaking, let's listen to her speak more on "the view" i love hearing her voice, she talks so fast and dominates the conversation, take a listen. >> -- how are you planning in the future to take care of 14 children paying three nannies. >> every hour of the day every single day i contemplate how i'm going to do this to support them it's a catch -- a double-edged sword, a catch-22. if i go back to school i have one more left for my master's i couldn't possibly earn enough money to take care of them for a couple of months. >> i'm going back to school to get my master's? michelle what do you see and hear when you look at this woman and you hear her speak because she's a little different than the rest of the crew, right. >> a little different. you know, again i'm obviously not treating her and this just from my perspective of what i've seen. >> really from objections, from afar. >> yes.
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you know, what i liken it to, have you ever tried to grab water? it's so frustrating, right? that's she reminds me of, like trying to grab at water. and it just is someone who, when i see her, she just reminds me of someone who is clearly -- has some personality issues. >> she's getting a lot of attention, she's a household name now, she's got her own nickname octomom. kim, how did the ladies from the "the view" treat her today, as an enemy, a villain, or just have fun with her. >> i think they even said something about, you are being t about this, so they gave her credit for handling all of the questions coming at her. >> i have to say, i also eye felt like whoopi wanted to slide off of the sofa, you know? >> i kept -- she was like inching as further -- as far as away as she could get from her. she propels other people. no other way to describe it. you want to run away from her.
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>> she is, but run away but we can't stop watching her. i'm fascinated listening to her. how does she have time by the way to go to all of these shows? but i guess that's how she's making money, right, kim? with the bikini shots and everything else. >> and that's the one question that she didn't answer. kept asking her long term how are you going to support these kids? barbara asked it i think three times. she tried and tried again. >> and coming up we're going to take a quick break. when we come back we'll go through all of the expenses. what does it take to take care of 14 kids?
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>> the temperatures may be frigid, but the atmosphere here is red hot. welcome to comcast on the red carpet. i'm at the 14th annual maryland state police polar bear plunge, maryland's premier winter event. >> this is my kind of weather. >> perfect day for a plunge. >> you got to get in. >> this is a huge event. it's amazing. we started back in '96 and it was probably like hundreds of people, and now it's just thousands. it's turned into a major standout event for the state of maryland. >> this is the it first time we've had a snow like this and
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it really does tell who this is all about. it's raising money for a special group of people and they're coming no matter what the weather is. >> how do you do this? >> why? because i love the energy. >> the show must go on. the polar bear plunge, great benefit for special olympics, one of the great charities in maryland, and a ton of people out here. everybody is warm and in the spirit of giving, so it will be a great day. >> for one of the rookie soup sr plunger, this was an item on his life to do list. >> i've never done it. you've heard of the movie the bucket list. this was on my bucket list of things to do. i've accomplished it and can check it off my list. it was a great, great opportunity. >> this is the most amazing group of people i've ever worked with. for those of you who have not been here before, you'll leave here with life long friends. >> as a first time plunger, it's not what you expect.
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i never expected to cry, but i did yesterday and today because the super plungers were so much. to hear the stories are heart-felt. >> i was a first time super plunger in freezing cold water. >> what's the water temperature? >> cold. >> my first time, i could never do it. this this year, i was like, alright, i'm here, i'm going to do it. we're in little costumes. it's cold out there. nothing compares to how cold it is out here. >> it's rewarding because of the smiles you put on the athletes faces and the camaraderie you get to be with the parents, then the family atmosphere that keeps drawing everybody back. >> are you ready? are you ready? >> it gets better every time. >> this is serious business. >> every year i challenge all of the delegates and the house delegates to come out and plunge f they are not going to plunge,
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they should give us money for the special olympics. >> it's a wonderful cause, special people, and an important segment of our society, and we have to step up and be there for them. >> for law enforcement, it's a special, unique connection with the spec olympics. police officers love to be out there among the crowd, and they love to be around everyone, the young and the old. >> the 2010 marked the inaugural year, a special plunge on friday for maryland's elementary and high school students. >> we had about 2,000 students out here yesterday. the energy was amazing. these kids embraced the concept. for them to do something bigger than themselves and be active, it's awesome. >> it's for the special olympians. we live for, go for, die for, is to give them an opportunity to participate if the games. >> our athletes are children and adults. we have athletes in their 70's.
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they can choose from 28 different sports all year long. we're not a one-time a year attraction event. everyday of the year an athlete is benefits from the funds raise. >> with over $3 million raised from the efforts this year, some may wonder where the money goes? >> it goes straight to the athletes like myself and show that athletes with disabilities can do anything that they put their minds to. >> think about it t you can sit there as a child and see kids playing tennis, basketball, football, running track. now as a kid because somebody looked at you as having some type of disability, you don't have a disability. this allows you to go out there and do everything that everybody else can do. you're just like everybody else. >> the bay may be chilly, but you see the steam off of me. that's the warm from our hearts. >> this is what you call freezing for a reason. to learn how you can contribute
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now we're finding out that parents reported this doctor years ago for excess of kissing inappropriate touching, other doctors and nurses were suspicious. listen to this, his own sister went to a medical society with fears five years ago, but nothing was done. why? a little girl abandoned at a gas station bathroom found crying in a men's room stall, someone left her behind but who?
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who could just leave a tiny girl with those big innocent eyes? finally today, a new clue we may find out what happened to her. controversy, opinion, your point of view, this is "prime news." welcome, once again, i'm vinnie politan in for mike galanos. this is "prime news." first, breaking news from sea world in orlando, florida. a killer whale attacked a trainer killing her in front a horrified crowd and this whale has a history, killed two people in the past. a short time ago sea world held a news conference. said the trainer slipped or fell in the whale tank but we're getting a different story from some witnesses. >> don't know where, just took off really fast and then he came back around to the glass, jumped up, and grabbed the trainer by the waist and started shaking her violently and her shoe, left her without her shoe floating and sirens immediately started and then everybody, down, like not the trainer, but the other
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people who kind of stand around that glass area started telling us that we needed to get out, get out. the sirens were going off. people were runnings out. i have never seen so many sea world employees coming out of the the woodwork. people in shoes in stressed clothes and yelling at us that we need to get out. >> drew petrimoulx a reporter from wbdo radio down in orlando. let me begin with you, drew, because we're talking about this whale has a history. you know when we investigate crimes we talk about, oh has this guy ever done this before, well, has this whale done something like this before? what do we know? >> well, exactly, apparently this same whale who was captured off of the coast of isla in 1993. 1991 was involved in an incident where a trainer was killed, actually it was a couple of whales that participated in basically ripping apart this trainer, dragging her in the water and killing her. shortly after that, the whale was moved to sea world orlando,
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here, where the whale was involved in another death in 1999. the details of that incident aren't exactly clear. somebody apparently snuck into the tank overnight. and was found in the morning draped over the whale. whether or not the whale actually killed the person or the person drowned, is unclear. but we do know that the whale was involved, at least partly with that death as well. >> all right, lori moreno, when we deal with criminals and they have struck in the past, we say there are red flags. somebody should have known, somebody should have done something. we should have taken this person and put them away, well, how about whales, lori? if this whale has done something like this in the past why is this whale still swimming around in the tank in sea world? >> caller: well, i think that the question is why are any whales swimming around in a tank like this? it's important to put this into perspective. there's not a single insstance of an orca killing or injuring a human being in the wild. all of the cases of orcas killing each other or killing
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human beings have been in captivity. and when you look at the effects of captivity on these animals you realize that they are an enormous stress living in highly artificial circstachumstancecir. their own lives are cut in half by being kept in captivity. we know that the trauma and the emotional disturbance that occurs when animals are capt frurtd wild taken from their families, tremendous. so we're dealing with a large, intelligent animal, confined in a tight-knit -- >> how intelligent of these animals? can they perceive who someone is? do we have any research or information that an orca whale can tell, oh, this is the person who trains me, this is the person who feeds me? can they make that distinction? >> caller: oh, yes. there's a lot of information about that. there are people that swim with orcas all of the time and they swim with the orcas when they
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are actually preying on other food items and the orcas don't bother them at all. remember this is an animal that has a brain, a lot larger than ours. and -- >> well, i would hope so. they're more than 12,000 pounds! >> well, yes. but also from -- in a regular relative to body size. >> got you. >> caller: -- it's the largest whale and also they live in very complexed social groups so you take an animal like that and you put them in a confined space in artificial setting and you have an animal that's mostly disturbed. >> yeah, well let's go -- drew, what do we know about the trainer here? because i've got to think that the woman who was there, very experienced. has been around whales for i long, long time. this whale for a long time. what do we know about her? >> yeah and from some the stuff that i've been gathering, only very experienced trainers were allowed to deal with this whale because of its past. we don't know the name of this woman yet but we do know she was 40 years old and apparently one the most experienced trainers
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that they have at that park. >> drew, what's the reaction of sea world? because i was a reporter down in orlando for a while, and i know when things happened at theme parks down there, it's awfully tough to get information sometimes. how forthcoming have they been at sea world so far. >> well, they did hold a press conference, you're talking from their angle what they thought happen. obviously, a little different from that interview that you played earlier with the eyewitness saying that the whale actually came out and attacked the trainer. they say that the trainer fell into the pool and was killed. so there is some disconnect there. but as you can expect they are tight-lipped about these type of things. >> lori, what can you do, if in fact this whale is killed in the past, sea world will not keep that whale there any longer, i would guess, where can this whale go? can it return to the wild? >> caller: well that whale may actually be a candidate of being returned to the wild when he was captured from the wild if they can find his native social group
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there's a possibility he can be rehabbed and returned to the wild. there's also a number of people that can offer some protocols for rehabbing dolphins and whales in captivity and bringing them back into the wild. at very least, he can be put into a sanctuary at some sort where he can live his life without hurting other people. >> right. lori moreno, drew petrimoulx, thank you so much. >> a pediatrician who parents trust with their kids and now is accused of being a child molester. the doctor now facing first-degree rape.
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how could a pediatrician be accused of raping little kids for a decade without anyone being suspicious? now we're finding out there were many red flags and all of this is so infuriating. starting in 1994 pennsylvania doctor dr. earl bradley was accused sexual misconduct. no charges were filed. in 2004, delaware, a mom complained about improper touching. her 3-year-old, said dr. bradley kissed her too much. why is he kissing her to begin with? no charges filed. in 2005, dr. bradley's own sister, his office manager at time reported it to the state medical society, and guess what, no charges filed. and then in 200 , more allegations. police tried to get a search warrant. that warrant was denied. then finally, late 2009, december, this doctor was arrested. if you look at the time line, cops say 48 victims were abused in just the last year.
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could these children have been saved? what took so long? joining me psychotherapist dawn horowitz, a person she works with sex abuse victims and with offenders and ryan mavity, reporter for the "cape gazette" in delaware. let me start with you, ryan. all of these missed opportunities, i mean, how did that happen? is there an explanation as to how people can report a doctor kissing someone too much, how his own sister can make a report and nothing gets done here? >> well, that's the million dollar question in this case is why? and certainly, the powers that be here in delaware from the governor to attorney general biden have come out and formed task force to find out that question, why? as far as some of the allegations go, police have told us before that one of the
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reasons they were not able to press charges against bradley is because not all -- there was no way they could get his exams not out of the realm of medical possibility. in late 2009, he -- they got strong evidence that he took a child outside of the examining room and that was in their eyes what they were able to get authority for a search warrant for. and then once they got that search warrant, they basically hit the mother lode, which was the videos that showed bradley committing sexual offenses against children. >> all right, let me go tour, dawn. >> yeah. >> you have worked with offenders. how does a guy like this get that opportunity? how is he able to -- and he's a doctor, i mean when people go to the doctor or bring their kids there, they are going to be with their children, i think, most of the time if not all of the time. how does he get away with this? >> caller: well, i think because he has that position of trust and people still hang on to those old stereotypes, the myths
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about people that molest are the creepy looking guy in the long black trench coat that snaps children off the streets and i think it is son important and vital to children's lives and safety to get the message out that people molest because they are in a position of trust. they have gained your child's trust because of the position in which they're in. and so, here, you know, apparently this doctor was able to gain trust because he was their physician and people believed in him and gave him a blanket trust, it sounds like. >> let's go out to the phone lines to see what you think. let's go to ohio and melody. you are on the air. >> caller: yes. my concern would be for the children. after them being -- i'm sure some of them were terribly terrorized by this doctor and traumatized, what is the treatment that a child has to go through or the therapy for this type of an incident? thanks. >> how about that, dawn? >> what is the treatment that
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child needs to go through? >> right. this is the man who molested me. >> caller: i would absolutely suggest that they get into treatment with somebody who's qualified that works with children that works with children that have been molested and assess where that particular child is at. you know, all children are different but they're going to need some help and support and i think the most important thing is to find a therapist the child can connect with and has experience in training in the field to help your child make sense of it and make sure the blame is taken off the child and help educate the child and the parent. >> ryan, how about the victims in this case. what are we hearing from these victims' families, are they coming out, is it outrage or a case of oh, my goodness, i can't believe that this happened, this is the doctor i trusted? >> well, it's both of those things. i think, you know, lower sussex county, delaware, is one of those places in the world things generally come to, not from. so something like this is
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just -- just shocked people beyond everything. and, you know, the major thing that you hear from people that -- whose children were patients with dr. bradley is that they trusted him. everyone you hear is that we trusted this guy. and it's just one -- people are just, you know, it's the water cooler conversation in this part of the world, for sure. >> and that's the thing. i mean, you trust your doctor. if you didn't trust them, you wouldn't bring them the most important thing in your world when something is wrong. you bring your child to a doctor and people screen doctors and they go to someone that they trust and this man, this man, if these allegations are true, violated that trust to such a degree and now we're hearing these numbers, outrageous, the man who parents trusted to care for their kids. instead, pediatrician earl bradley sexually assaulted over 100 little patients. we'll dig deeper into the red flags that were missed. also, don't forget, we are taking your calls, 1-877-tell-hln.
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we're back now talking about the pediatrician accused of raping 103 kids. taking your phone calls at 1-877-tell-hln. and attorney wendy murphy now joins our conversation. wendy, here's what i don't understand.
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this goes on, there are other doctors who have suspicions, don't they have some sort of obligation to make a report here and, when reports are given, shouldn't there be a better investigation if his own sister goes to the medical society? >> you think, vinnie? here's the thing that bugs meet most. the story is full of nonprofessional people who knew and were suspicious and were trying to do something. you think the ones with the m.d. after their name might actually get a clue. i mean, to have this guy be so prolific for so long and to have medical professionals actually voice their own suspicions, one guy called him a pedophile, among a bunch of other medical professionals. it's extraordinary that the first "do no harm thing" you remember that part of the hip hypocritical oath? i don't get this on any level. it's not that this is the first doctor who ever hurt a kid. >> no we've seen this before but to this extent is completely
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outrageo outrageous. dawn horowitz, psychotherapist with us. this man's uncle has a conviction for indecency. shouldn't we read anything into that? is there a possibility there's some connection or nexus between this man's behavior and the fact that his uncle has been convicted of indecency? >> caller: i don't know about that. that would just be really speculating. it sounds like, though, you briefly said before the break about red flags that were missed. >> sure. >> caller: just wanted to comment on that for a minute. >> give us some more. >> caller: okay. the concern being taking a child alone. why would he ever need to take your child alone, doesn't make sense to me you wouldn't stay with especially a young child at the doctor. to me, that would had been a red flag. and again, this isn't, by any means, about blame. >> don't these guys -- don't these guys have a way of convincing you that, hey, i'm the doctor, you've got your hands full with these other kids? >> absolutely. >> i'll get them a piece of
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candy or something, i'm such a good little patient. >> caller: what was missed i think part of what was that people give, people in positions, blanket trust and they shouldn't. this is our children we're talking about. they should not be trusted just because of the role that they hold. i have treated people who have sexually offended that are every profession you could ever think of, absolutely every one. there is nothing i can't think of i have not treated in terms of professions so i think we need to be really careful about who we give our trust to and don't just assume that person is trustworthy. >> i've got an even better idea. here's an idea, for the parents out there who may be teaching their children good touch, bad touch, only okay if the doctor does that, knock that out. >> not to include the doctor anymore. >> i know. not only that. >> we're running out of time but thank you all so for which helping us out. what a heart-breaking story this is. another one, a little girl abandoned as a gas station found crying. now people across the country want to adopt her, but who is this also girl? 
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i am deeply sorry for any dad in toyota drivers have experienced. >> have demonstrated an uncaring attitude and disregard for life. the results have been tragic. and today, i must say, shame on you toyota for being so greedy. and shame on you nhtsa for not doing your job. >> gripping stories from capitol hill. toyota car owners telling their horror stories of their runaway cars speeding out of control and you just saw toyota's ceo apologize today plus now
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finding out this recall fix may not totally solve the gas pedal problem. are people still driving dangerous cars? with us, rhonda and eddie smith who testified before congress. you just saw rhonda. they join me by phone. thank you, both, for joining us. rhonda, walk us through your story. what happened, what kind of car were you driving? >> caller: it was a 2000 lexus es350. >> what happened? >> caller: i'm sorry, it was a 2007. i want to thank you, vinnie, for having me talk to you today. >> thanks for joining us. we appreciate it. you're driving. when is the first time you noticed that something is wrong with this car? >> caller: well, it was whenever i had just gotten onto the interstate and i had accelerated into the flow of traffic and then the cruise light came on and the car went into passing gear on its own and i thought at that time it was something to do
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with the cruise so i took the cruise off but it continued to accelerate. >> so it's still going let's take a listen for some of the folks at home and take a listen to some of your testimony before congress today. take a listen. >> i prayed for god to help me. i called my husband on the bluetooth phone system. i knew -- i'm sorry -- i knew he could not help me but i wanted to hear his voice one more time. after six miles, god intervened. as the car came very slowly to a stop -- >> rhonda, six miles and you're driving along, you can't control the speed. so, you call your husband, eddie? >> caller: yes.
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i had done everything that i knew to do and i knew that my life was going to end so he's my -- he's my life-long partner and that's what i wanted to hear and then i thought, well, maybe he knew of something else to do that might save my life but there was nothing else to do so i thought that was my last day here on this earth and i just wanted to hear him. >> wow. well, miraculously somehow the car slowed down and came to a stop. today on capitol hill the president of toyota sales here in the united states spoke as well. take a listen. >> listening to mrs. smith, i'm embarrassed for what happened. and we are going to go down and talk to them and get that car so that they feel satisfied. i want her and her husband to feel safe about driving our products. i was embarrassed to hear the
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story. >> rhonda, i wanted to get your reaction from what you heard from the president of toyota sales here in the united states. saying, hey, they are embarrassed. they want to talk to you. want to make sure that you are satisfied. what do you need to hear from him? >> caller: well, i think, for one thing that he should be embarrassed. it should never have gotten this far. but, yes, an apology would be good and i just want to hear that -- that, uh -- that they would realize that what they've done is wrong and morally wrong and i would like to hear them say that they're going to do better on their safety and that, if they survive this destruction such as mitsubishi did in 2004,
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i would like to ensure quality controls so that someone would never have to go through something like this. >> thank goodness, though, you survived it and able to speak to us tonight about this and tell the world about it. let's go to ali velshi. the one thing that jumped out at me they may not be able to totally fix the problem here, not going to be able to fix the problem? >> we have three problems going on. put aside the prius problem and deal with the lexus and camry that rhonda drives. it was all about brake acceleration, right? unwanted acceleration. in some cases because the pedal was stuck on the floor mat, in other cases just getting stuck like rhonda is talking about. what is happening there is some evidence this might not be a mechanical problem. toyota is fixing a mechanical problem right now. there are some people who think this could be an electronic problem. rhonda is one of those people, she thinks there is something in the system that wrong. and toyota says, that's not case.
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but there are a lot of scientists who think -- engineers who think it is. what we haven't got a full explanation of the fact it is all done. toyota has examined it and don't think it an electronic problem and think it can be fixed mechanically. and that's where the question comes in. >> ali, we have a viewer question who wants to know, how long did they know about this? do we know the answer. >> we sort of do. the president of toyota said today he found out about in late 2009 but the fact there had been reports, all sorts of information out there. what he said to congress today the person in charge of quality control knew about it earlier but as you recall, vinnie, you and our viewers may know this, there was a memo that went out under the category of toyota wins, wins for toyota, things that have benefited toyota, the idea they were able to limit the recall into something smaller than it could had been. there is some sense they knew about it a long time ago. the issue is did they know it was this serious, what we're
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still trying to get to the bottom of. >> ali velshi and i want to thank rhonda smith as well. i know eddie was standing right back next to rhonda on the phone. thank you both. coming up, more information about the breaking news we told you about at the top of the show, a killer whale killed a trainer at sea world in orlando. we'll take you to florida for the latest in the investigation and, of course, taking your calls, 1-877-tell-hln.
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like i said, she explained this. he know was swimming very fast. this is his assignment. we need him to calm down, swim slower and see if he will change his pattern later. >> what are your thoughts now that someone was actually killed. >> i think it's terrible and, you know, i mean, obviously, this isn't something that happens very often so it wouldn't -- premeditate it happening but i wish and pray they hadn't gotten in the pool since it was clear the whale was upset and just my prayers go to that person's family. >> breaking news from sea world in orlando, florida, a killer whale just attacked a trainer, killing her in front of a horrified crowd, so violent she was pronounced dead at the scene. joining me now nick vinzant a reporter from "prime news" affiliate florida central news
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13. thanks for joining us. let's begin. we heard initially conflicting reports from sea world and witnesses as to what exactly happened. what are you hearing? >> reporter: we are still trying to sort out a lot of details to be frankly honest about it but we have had a very brief statement from sea world essentially came out and said this is a tragic day for them that a lot of people at the park are taking it hard. the local sheriff's office here didn't really say very much. they only said that this is a death investigation and they are going to go ahead and proceed as they normally do but what we are hearing, what we have heard from both officials and also talked with witnesses, people who work inside of the park this was an experienced animal trainer, she was about 40 years old. name has not been confirmed or released at this time. but, she was participating in one of the private dinner shows that's out here. you pay a little bit extra money and can come and get a close-up view one of the whales. she was participating in that when suddenly she slipped. fell into that tank and that's when the whale came and attacked her and then pushed her to the
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bottom of the tank that she was in, that's what we are hearing from witnesses who were there and they describe it, you just played some of that about how horrible a scene that was. we talked with woman woman who said she had to grab her kids and avoid their eyes. you are talking about a huge whale that really wasn't anything that anybody could do at this point. they did sound the alert sirens and tried to get people here and call in as many trainers as they could. but it was just too late. we talked to the sea world officials, they say at this point, they are not closing down the park. the orange county sheriff's office is launching an investigation but we've talked with one inside source who says, that this whale has had problems and has killed two people in the past. this is now something that a lot of people are paying attention to. sheriff's office will continue to investigate. >> unbelievable. >> reporter: there is also a lot of grief that is coming out at this point, as well. >> the thing that we are finding very shocking, yeah, this whale has some sort a history so you're wondering what is the trainer doing that close to this whale over 12,000 pounds. we've got a caller. we've got keith in canada. keith, you're on the air.
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>> caller: i actually was born and raised in victoria, where we had an exact incident, the same as this happen. and, i mean, these things, they don't call them "killer" whales for nothing. they are, pound for pound, the most dangerous animal in the world. >> absolutely. you are so right, keith. we still have nick vanzant with us from central florida news 13 down in orlando. nick, i heard you explain the trainer slipped. we've heard other witness accounts where a witness said that the whale came out of the water and grabbed the trainer by the waist. are you hearing conflicting reports or are you hearing a consistent story coming from the folks you're speaking to down there? >> reporter: we're hearing conflicting reports, because when we initially got here, we heard a wide variety of stories. we talked to some people that said during the main shamu show that happens earlier in the day when thousands of people can come in, the whales had been acting a little bit differently
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and this particular whale in question has been used to stud out in the past and they said that the whales were acting a little bit strange and then they go into this private show and that's why where we're hearing a lot of those conflicting reports. we heard, yes, that version from the sheriff's office she was doing something on the edge of the tank. that's not unusual. they do get very close if you have seen one of these shows but they were saying, yeah, she was close to the edge of the tank and maybe fell in but also heard the whale came up, grabbed her and then pulled her back into the water. we are hearing those conflicting reports like you just mentioned at this time. >> neck, we appreciate you're reporting. nick vinzant from central florida news 13. say i had to all my old friends down there at cfn. octomom, nadya suleman told the ladies of abc's "the view" she could have more children. did you hear that? octomom wants more kids? that is if she gets married one day but suleman says that's far, far, far off in the future and if she does get married, she'll only have one child. does she really need any more
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kids? we're taking your calls on this one, 1-877-tell-hln.
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is octomom really considering another baby? is she in denial? nadya suleman can barely take care of her 14 children yet here she is on abc's "the view" today talking about having one more baby. >> is this it for kids for you, you are done having kids? >> yes. oh, yes, yes, yes, oh, >> yes, yes, yes, why is that? >> absolutely. some day, far, far, far in the future when they're older if, god willing i meet somebody, i meet somebody -- not alone but i'm not going to say 100%, no, i'm not going to someday far in the future get married and want a baby. >> godwilling or god forbid? i can't wait to hear your calls on this one.
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1-877-tell-hln. joining me, kim serafin, senior editor for "in touch weekly," and michelle golland, clinical psychologist read more of her thoughts on momlogic.com. all right, kim, let's get, first of all, to the appearance on "the view." she's got these boots on, she's got these tight leggings. what's going on there? >> yes. i don't even know where to start. i watched the women's figure skating last night in the olympics but i didn't show up to this appearance dressed up like an ice dancer so i don't know she was very inspierpd i guess. >> there she is. so happy to be there. >> oh. >> she was thrilled. i have to say, i mean, we were laughing all at it and "the view" ladies you don't normally see them trying to get a word in edgewise over their guests normally fighting over each other but they could not even speak, she has so much energy, manic energy. she burned all of those calories off. that's how she lost the weight. she must have burned 2,000 calories by talking this morning. >> number one she looks great,
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michelle golland, right? and number two, we haven't heard any disaster stories about the kids. i know if something bad happened with those kids we'd heard about it. how is she keeping this altogether, michelle? >> well, supposedly, she has three nannies during the day. >> that helps. >> and i'm sure -- yeah. i mean, i think if she didn't have help, we would be hearing about disasters, given what we can see in her personality. and how difficult it is to even just to speak with her. >> well, speaking of her speaking, let's listen to her speak more on "the view. "i love hearing her voice. she talks so fast and dominates the conversation, take a listen. >> -- how are you planning in the future to take care of 14 children paying three nannies? >> every hour of the day every single day i contemplate how i'm going to do this to support them it's a catch -- a double-edged sword, a catch-22. if i go back to school i have one more left for my master's i couldn't possibly earn enough money to take care of them for a couple of months. >> i'm going back to school to get my master's?
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michelle, what do you see and hear when you look at this woman and you hear her speak because she's a little different than the rest of the crew, right? >> a little different. you know, again i'm obviously not treating her and this just from my perspective of what i've seen. >> really from objections, from afar. >> yes. you know what i liken it to, vinnie, have you ever tried to grab water? it's so frustrating, right? that's she reminds me of, like trying to grab at water. and it just is someone who, when i see her, she just reminds me of someone who is clearly -- has some personality issues. is a hd name now, has her own nickname, octomom. kim, how did the ladies from "the view" treat her today? did they treat her as an enemy, a villain, or just have fun with her? >> i think they even said something about, you're being a really good sport about this. they gave her credit for handling all of the questions coming at her.
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>> i have to say, i also -- i felt like whoopee wanted to, like, slide off the sofa, you know? she was like inching as further -- as far away as she could get from her, which i think -- she repels people. i mean, there's no other way to describe it. but she is -- you want to run away from her. >> she is, but we want to run away, but can't stop watching her. i am fascinated listen to go her. how does she have time, by the way, to go to all these shows? i guess that's how she is making money, right, kim, with the appearances, the bikini shots and everything else? >> right. that was the one question that she really didn't ever answer. kept asking her long-term, how are you going to support these kids? barbara asked three times and tried again. >> we're going to take a quick break and come back and go through the expenses. what does it take to take care of 14 kids?
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